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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:23 am 
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Now, this has been a controversial topic sometime among TMNT fans, and I was just wondering what other people thought about the order of oldest to youngest for the turtles. Me personally? I think it goes: Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael, Michelangelo. Some series openings list the names off in this specific order (the old cartoon, Back to the sewers, let me know if I've missed anything).

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 Post subject: Re: Birth order?
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Bleh, this topic has been brung a few time, but anyways, it's fun to see how it goes for everyone again.

I suppose we nearly, ALL agree that Leo is the oldest and Mikey the youngest, right? The only controversial thing is Raph and Don.

Personally, I prefer to think Raph is older than Donnie for a few reasons. First, well, when I was watching the show, I always thought like the geek was younger than the gangster, but that's only a personal opinion.

Second, this is more about Gaiden than the actual TMNT medias: When Leo left, he let Raph "in charge". Raph was looking over (he wasn't, but he was supposed to) Donnie and Mikey, making me think even more that HE was the big brother.

Third... actually, I don't have a third that comes to mind >.> But those are enough to convince me that Raph is older (in my mind anyways).

Afterall, they're all from the same batch to me, so they're all the same age :P

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I'm with Davmil on this one... I'm pretty sure it's Leo>Raph>Donnie>Mikey.

Though I think that Raph wanting to be leader when they were younger is a pretty good sign he's second-oldest.

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I've always thought of them that way, though in the 2007 movie Donny was left in charge when Leo left, so it seems like they wanted to say Don is second. :?

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Yeah well, sometimes the youngs want to take over anyway XD But yeah, the two oldest fighting for leadership :3 Though we all know Raph becoming a leader would only lead into a blood bath. Either it is human or turtle blood.

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Davmil3111 wrote:
Second, this is more about Gaiden than the actual TMNT medias: When Leo left, he let Raph "in charge". Raph was looking over (he wasn't, but he was supposed to) Donnie and Mikey, making me think even more that HE was the big brother.


Don was clearly more distressed than Raph so I think Leo leaving Donnie in charge wouldn't have been a wise move at all. Raph was in a much better state to lead the others than Donnie was, who was all hysterical and blaming Leo for what had just happened.

My order is Leo//Raph//Don//Mikey. I don't think there is a huge gap between each one though. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Birth order?
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I've always thought of them that way, though in the 2007 movie Donny was left in charge when Leo left, so it seems like they wanted to say Don is second. :?


it could be that Donnie is more trustworthy and smart than Raph so he was the better choice.

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 Post subject: Re: Birth order?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:30 pm 
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In all likelihood considering that they are turtles who came from a petshop they are probably the same age, our perception of their ages oldest to youngest is mostly based on their maturity when compared to one another. There have only been three actually mentions of age in any form of the series, one is from the old arcade game which put Leo at 16 and the other three at 15. In the mirage comics Splinter tells April around the time where they first meet her that they are 15 1/2. And in the comic strip it is stated that Don was the last to hatch. This is only mentioned in the comic strip and was likely as not only used for a gag.

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Wow, first time hearing something that MIGHT mean Donnie is the youngest XD Oh well.

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^_^; yeah surprised me too when I found it actually XD granted it's only really canon to the comic strip but really no one really knows outside of the creators. I doubt Splinter even knows since not only were they already hatched when he found them but infants so they wouldn't know either. Heck since they came from a petshop I'd honestly be surprised if they were related by blood but that really doesn't matter because family is family.


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Personally, whether it's in the Gaiden or any OTHER TMNT-Verse, I think their birth order is as follows:

Leo
Raph
Donnie
Mikey

But that's just me.

Besides, no matter WHAT universe that you look at, I don't really think that Peter OR Kevin ever really SAID what their birth-order is. (Or DID they? I is confused....... :? :? :? :? :? ) So it's open to interpretion.

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 Post subject: Re: Birth order?
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:23 pm 
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Whitewolf89 wrote:
Personally, whether it's in the Gaiden or any OTHER TMNT-Verse, I think their birt order is as follows:

Leo
Raph
Donnie
Mikey

But that's just me.

Besides, no matter WHAT universe that you look at, I don't really think that Peter OR Kevin ever really SAID what their birth-order is. (Or DID they? I is confused....... :? :? :? :? :? ) So it's open to interpretion.


I second this notion to the fourth power!

I don't believe they ever stated their birth-order, we were only to assume based on how they acted towards another such as referring Leo as the leader and 'older' brother and Mikey being the baby and youngest. As for Raph and Donny...I always believed Raph to be second to Leo and Donny to be somewhere beneath Raphie.

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 Post subject: Re: Birth order?
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:07 pm 
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Yeah they never did say an order, just that they were 15 1/2 when they first met April (Almost 16 when Mike found Klunk in the first christmas issue, which means they were almost 17 the next christmas when Shredder ambushed Leo in the comics)

Kind of funny really, in the comics they were at April's for about 2 years before the ambush in the comics but in the 2k3 series only a few days.

And well honestly they came from a pet shop so I can't really think of any way anyone could actually know their birth order in the first place.


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